You know, sometimes I feel like being an evil libertarian.

23 06 2008

This is not to say that I support libertarian economic policy. But I think libertarians have it right on some things. I really do.

There was a mildly cringe-worthy thread over at Feministe a while ago about whether certain (consensual) sex acts can be considered properly feminist or not.

In these kind of “debates”, there are a few terms which keep popping up. You know, you have to “examine” or “analyze” or question why you happen to be doing this or that. And usually, this or that is some kind of sexual activity other people happen to not like. Usually, it’s BDSM or other powerplay or whatever isn’t considered properly “feminist”.

This is pretty insulting on a bunch of levels. As Ren pointed out a while ago, these cries of “But you have to examine!” assume that people who are into certain kinds of sex haven’t done their analysis already.

But, here’s my main point.

There is a time when you need to stop analyzing and just let people live their damn lives. No, not everyone has pristine feminist thoughts in their head while they’re fucking. As long as what they’re doing is safe, sane and consensual (and no, just because you wouldn’t do it doesn’t make it insane), I think it’s time to back off. Really. It’s none of your business. It’s probably a lot less un-feminist than you think. I know of a lot of kinky folk who are feminists, and a lot of vanilla folks who are misogynist assholes. Contrary to popular belief, what people do in the bedroom (or bathroom, or kitchen, or living room, or local bathouse) tends to stay there. At least that’s what I think.

As a feminist, I’m sick of hearing that “XYZ is a tool of the patriarchy”. You know what else is a tool of the patriarchy? Telling people how to fuck!

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24 06 2008
Jacky V.

“You know what else is a tool of the patriarchy? Telling people how to fuck!”

Hear hear! I always argue that anything that takes place in a patriarchal society will contain some patriarchal overtones BECAUSE it reflects the society that it’s in, NOT because the thing itself is inherently patriarchal. For example, the much of the porn that we have is androcentric. Of course it is! It’s made in a society that not not question male privilege. If we were a truly egalitarian society, our porn would reflect that. Same with marriage. There is nothing inherently patriarchal about various forms of marriage such as monogamy or polygamy. But when they take place in patriarchal societies, they wind up benefitting men somehow.

So various sex acts taking place within a patriarchal society will often be interpreted as degrading to women, for instance, but this is largely because we’re working with a patriarchal worldview where sex itself is an act of men overtaking women. See my post here (http://jackysplace.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/of-sex-and-scamming/) for more on this point.

24 06 2008
littleraven

i saw that post on feministe, and i think that it is always based on the situation whether something like sex is feminist or anti-feminist. its not just black-and-white, feminist-or-not-feminist, there are grey areas.

p.s. tag, you’re it!

(sorry, i had to tag six people, go to my blog for the details!)

24 06 2008
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[…] You know, sometimes I feel like being an evil libertarian. « Miss Nomered “There is a time when you need to stop analyzing and just let people live their damn lives. … As long as what they’re doing is safe, sane and consensual (and no, just because you wouldn’t do it doesn’t make it insane), I think it’s time to back (tags: feminism sex sexuality) […]

24 06 2008
queerunity

just so you know bob barr the “libertarian candidate” authored defense of marriage act, and supported dont ask dont tell. Also Ron Paul is against same-sex marriage.
http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com

25 06 2008
SnowdropExplodes

I think this just reveals something about my own personal kinks/fantasies, but at first glance I thought the title of this post was, “You know, sometimes I feel like being an evil librarian”.

25 06 2008
missnomered

Queerunity….

Bob Barr’s actions, by definition, are not libertarian. That’s hardly “live and let live”. Ron Paul is kind of an ass, too.

I think you might have missed my point a bit?

4 07 2008
Alexa

Ron Paul is kind of an ass, too.

Indeed.

Interesting blog. Good for you for starting one at your age with topics of such depth.

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